tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4367600670436634226.post7800306304378422729..comments2023-05-18T23:03:38.059-07:00Comments on Odd's Oracle: Weather..., or not...The Art of Making Dirty...Oddshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15406048947308249483noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4367600670436634226.post-73854323697000606462014-11-15T02:55:08.787-08:002014-11-15T02:55:08.787-08:00Iain, I do like Mr. Welch's work, but the infe...Iain, I do like Mr. Welch's work, but the inference on his site is that "you can't afford it". He alone, it seems, does that look where the cleaner can't get round all the rivets, A very realistic look. Oddly, I used to drive tractors to help the funds. Interesting that you wouldn't make models for yourself. I am coming round to the same attitude these days. Burnout on slot car masters maybe? Advertising agencies pay the best. I did a rush job once, through John de Fraysinett of County Gate fame. Three days work for £1800! Flat out, but worth it.<br />I have some N-Drive kits I made the masters for. Maybe I should build them up and have a bash at weathering. Otherwise, I have no model railway stock at all!<br />Oddshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406048947308249483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4367600670436634226.post-57243377002744108112014-11-15T01:37:10.563-08:002014-11-15T01:37:10.563-08:00I love those models that the wonderful Mr Welch do...I love those models that the wonderful Mr Welch does where the loco is made to look careworn but well kept...they are fascinating bits of work, beautifully understated. Yes, sadly, as Phil says, there is less and less money in model making these days and 75% of the quotes I give out don't come back, despite my being pretty cheap. But I love doing what I do, and I know that I wouldn't make models just for myself, due to some strange personality defect (oh,not another one...) so making things for other people does it for me and pays a modest ...OK, tiny wage. And I write, drive trucks and do other stuff to keep the roof over our heads, although still consider myself to be a professional modelmaker. There's money in doing things for architects and oil companies, but those people, the oil folk anyway, are more unpleasant than a box of bankers, I would truly rather stack shelves than work for them again. I've been doing some 3D imaging for an architect/builder, but while I enjoy the challenges, it's not nearly the same. <br />I love the weathering on the V1 and the Gresley coach...brilliant!<br />Apart from the financial side of things, which I can't comment on for weathering, I think you would do a fabulous job and I can't wait to see what you come up with.Iain Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03633733907566547236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4367600670436634226.post-49156034907221333312014-11-14T14:02:12.555-08:002014-11-14T14:02:12.555-08:00Rich, your first post is still here. But as you d...Rich, your first post is still here. But as you discern, the angle has moved a little.<br />I agree with all you say there, except the weathering thing is a fad. I opened a 1997 mag today and there was no weathering evident apart from one pathetic attempt. Open one today and it's everywhere. It's keeping quite a few people afloat it seems. Now if a chap can do it in an hour, there's money in it. If as Mr. Welch and some others suggest they spend hours or even days on a basic weathering job, then no, there's less than burger flipping in it.<br />The odd thing is people seem to be willing to pay for this service, on road vehicles and buildings as well as locos, wagons and carriages. I even did a damaged Le Mans D-Type Jag recently for Tom Wysom, but he and I are as weird as you, old friend. I have just been looking for an alternative to the work that is slipping the way of my old trade, illustration. Not sure how long the pension credits that are due, will last. Oh and nothing would look naffer than a weathered wooden speedboat!! Yuch!Oddshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406048947308249483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4367600670436634226.post-39253903111121111782014-11-14T13:31:47.745-08:002014-11-14T13:31:47.745-08:00Martin,
Since this posting seems to have taken a ...Martin,<br /><br />Since this posting seems to have taken a rather different turn than what I had posted, and seemingly lost is of no matter.<br />In a nutshell. You build masters correct? How else would they look other than new? Also why didn't we weather any of those ship models we built back in the day? <br />A steam locomotive is rather like a farm tractor ain't it? I mean it starts off as new but then after hauling muck, pesticides and all matter of nasty things it starts to get a bit tatty. As the years roll on how many people who work these things ever kept them as new? It took me 13 years to murder an International Harvester Backhoe. <br />When new I washed it down every day. after a few years and the paint started to go flat why bother and just l keep it mechanically in good shape. I killed a Cat D-8 in six but that was a refinish job anyway.<br />I've known a lot of custom train painters in my day and not a one is still doing it. The new plastic stuff, give it a try if you wish but the old brass had to be totally disassembled and then put right after being painted. Not an easy task.<br />Consider, Building a model of the White House Corner crash back in the Bently glory days. Who would want a scale model of a wrecked automobile? And could you sell enough of those to make a profit and a living wage.<br />I think about these things late at night while waiting for the meds to kick in.<br />Seems a fair question really. Why? , that is........ Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16901021248212854013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4367600670436634226.post-61046298210540326732014-11-14T11:29:47.093-08:002014-11-14T11:29:47.093-08:00Phil, it seems to depend who you are. Mr.Welch no...Phil, it seems to depend who you are. Mr.Welch no doubt gets a small fortune as one of the MRJ "lodge", but the rest of us don't. We are the awkward squad who are unemployable and actually like working for ourselves. I don't do weathering but am seriously considering it as I really am sick of slot car patternmaking. As quick as I am at general modelmaking I doubt if I earn minimum wage on some of them and building kits for people into finished slot cars is starvation money. I hate building kits anyway! There's a guy who reckons a powder weathered loco (quite nicely too) takes an hour. So 25 quid is fair enough, but 25 for the AOMD stuff above is no way any kind of living wage. I have heard from the gent now and he says they were always done at a loss and he hardly does any anymore. I'm a decent cook, but I'm damned if I'd flip burgers for any money!Oddshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406048947308249483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4367600670436634226.post-45150227084175644712014-11-14T11:13:27.201-08:002014-11-14T11:13:27.201-08:00I have your last post up here, matey. First commen...I have your last post up here, matey. First comment in the list.Oddshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406048947308249483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4367600670436634226.post-21280579547401862612014-11-14T11:12:32.495-08:002014-11-14T11:12:32.495-08:00I always wonder about some of the prices charged f...I always wonder about some of the prices charged for building models. Having dabbled and decided that when making stuff pays worse than flipping burgers it wasn't worth doing. It seems you are getting a lot of work for no money here. I wonder how long it can carry on...Phil Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15673614093646938053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4367600670436634226.post-28823708182807446982014-11-14T09:49:33.843-08:002014-11-14T09:49:33.843-08:00I've been known to weather my weathering from ...I've been known to weather my weathering from time to time.<br /><br />(I wonder where my last post went off to???)Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16901021248212854013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4367600670436634226.post-91158125906834725442014-11-14T08:08:14.775-08:002014-11-14T08:08:14.775-08:00Have you been a weatherer in your railroad past, R...Have you been a weatherer in your railroad past, Rich?Oddshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15406048947308249483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4367600670436634226.post-34436698569610642312014-11-14T07:55:03.319-08:002014-11-14T07:55:03.319-08:00To the dark side welcome Martin. Been waiting for...To the dark side welcome Martin. Been waiting for you we have. Hmmmmmm.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16901021248212854013noreply@blogger.com